tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post5724792001274222714..comments2023-07-11T04:03:37.608-05:00Comments on DramaticElegance: the one where I talk about sexRachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-87447580712589739832014-02-05T21:34:33.758-06:002014-02-05T21:34:33.758-06:00if we take the shame away
then the flame can burn ...if we take the shame away<br />then the flame can burn glorious<br />public and private<br />like in the Garden where shame was forbidden, <br />not sex.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-70426479289473342532014-02-05T21:31:56.137-06:002014-02-05T21:31:56.137-06:00your words honour me.your words honour me.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-34185083392802370642014-02-05T21:31:29.899-06:002014-02-05T21:31:29.899-06:00Oh your account breaks my heart. How can we do thi...Oh your account breaks my heart. How can we do this to our children? no wonder the rates of assault are so high among church youth. we make it forbidden fruit, sticking our fingers in their ears so that they are kept safe, but then we forget that they need to know, that they need to learn the RIGHT way. <br /><br />grateful for your witness, friend.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-58691918336864434322014-02-05T21:30:06.536-06:002014-02-05T21:30:06.536-06:00if you get deeper than that (which I plan on explo...if you get deeper than that (which I plan on exploring in a post later on, especially as we draw closer to Valentine's Day), it's honestly extremely X-rated. The Bible doesn't censor sexuality, and neither should we. <br /><br />So glad to see you in this place, dearheart.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-72494906674021915622014-02-05T21:28:12.304-06:002014-02-05T21:28:12.304-06:00Jennifer, my dear friend, you know I respect you a...Jennifer, my dear friend, you know I respect you and love you, but here we really have to disagree. My husband didn't have a problem with the performance, and I know a lot of men that didn't either. I think that speaking broadly about men and their lust is actually a big disservice to men. As a friend of mine said, "we tell boys all the time that they can't control themselves around woman, that lust is out of their control, and then when they're men, they believe it." <br /><br />If maybe we took the stigma off the human body, if we stopped making sexuality so wrong and so secret, maybe things can change. Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-71924664705833010472014-02-05T21:26:22.642-06:002014-02-05T21:26:22.642-06:00Lisa, I love the way you see me. and that bit at t...Lisa, I love the way you see me. and that bit at the end there was the bravest and most exposed I've ever been about my sex life on line. Beyonce can teach us a lot. <br /><br />Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-48571713459508803692014-02-05T21:22:12.277-06:002014-02-05T21:22:12.277-06:00I too, live for the fire
and keep the flames burni...I too, live for the fire<br />and keep the flames burning<br />but not for public display<br />that was my complaintHisFireFlyhttp://hisfirefly.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-33384731663977072014-02-05T20:46:50.109-06:002014-02-05T20:46:50.109-06:00You speak with much wisdom. You speak with much wisdom. Brother Olliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506492407482879487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-54604273348498412552014-02-05T11:24:49.583-06:002014-02-05T11:24:49.583-06:00i think that people struggle with it because they ...i think that people struggle with it because they have a hard time talking about it...<br />i know when i used to do my sex talk to the youth i had to send a letter out...<br />and i would have parents that took their high school students out that week<br />or complain why i needed to talk about it because they would miss their friends if they<br />pulled them out that week...if they are 16, they probably know more about sex than <br />their parents...dont you think someone needs to be talking to them?Brian Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722940075884718007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-91896357580486144982014-02-04T18:12:26.041-06:002014-02-04T18:12:26.041-06:00I'm reading this over and over and my skin is ...I'm reading this over and over and my skin is on FIRE. <br /><br />Knowing... and it doesn't get more sensuous than that. AMEN. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-73432494522799836932014-02-04T14:12:01.721-06:002014-02-04T14:12:01.721-06:00I didn't watch the Grammy's so I had to go...I didn't watch the Grammy's so I had to go find the YouTube video of the performance. Here are my thoughts: I think the church as a whole has done a horrible job addressing sex. We don't talk about the words you mentioned, nor do we talk about pornography. We say lust is bad, but we don't address why we intrinsically do lust and how to handle it. We don't do a good job of giving ideas or addressing the importance of keeping things alive "in the bedroom." Sex within marriage is supposed to be a way to remember our initial union on our wedding days -- both the vows and consummation. It is important and vital.<br /><br />Here's my issue with the performance: The way she was dressed and the way she danced was not provocative for her husband alone. If my husband would have watched that, I am sure he probably would have stumbled over lust. And because of his battle with porn addiction, that would have elicited a whole other battle. He knows enough now to turn it off and get with Jesus when the temptation to engage with porn arises, but so many other men don't. And because they do not, they negatively impact their relationships with their wives.<br /><br />So, I guess my conclusion (I'm an external processor, can you tell?) is this: sexuality is a gift, a gift to be celebrated. But not at the expense of causing someone else to stumble. Now, I'm not judging Beyonce and Jay Z. I don't know if they even know Jesus. We might just be choosing to live by different standards. And that is okay. But I think it's also okay for people to not watch and celebrate what they did if it causes pain and turmoil in their own lives.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14701362919026534336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-79695183618826099552014-02-03T21:09:33.100-06:002014-02-03T21:09:33.100-06:00I knew this was going to be good just by your titl...I knew this was going to be good just by your title. :) And I was right. I didn't see their performance but I hear what you're saying and agree.<br /><br />Love this: <br />"there is no shame in nakedness. there is no shame in that passion, that marital lust that flows when skin touches skin and eyes meet. I'm no Beyonce, and he's no Jay-Z. but there's music when we meet that rivals theirs in beauty. when I get behind the door with my husband and I hear that latch click, there's no more veils there."Lisa notes...https://www.blogger.com/profile/07103364395238899215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-38863577100147577082014-02-03T20:43:59.891-06:002014-02-03T20:43:59.891-06:00Melinda, girl, you know I love you. and you know I...Melinda, girl, you know I love you. and you know I ain't gonna stop the preaching. <br /><br />Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-57770036782199710932014-02-03T20:43:20.206-06:002014-02-03T20:43:20.206-06:00Jane, I think your question is a fabulous one. qui...Jane, I think your question is a fabulous one. quite frankly, I think that people have a pretty big stigma on sex. we've scandalized to the point of being forbidden fruit before marriage, and then we are expected to flick a switch and everything change to "appropriate" levels of sexuality within our brand-new marriages. I can't speak for everyone's mind, but I can speak for my own, and I can share what I have encountered. <br /><br />I think they think it was bad because they saw it, that it's "only for private viewing" and that's how it should stay. I, frankly, do not believe that. <br /><br />thank you so much for interacting with me here. all responses are treasured. Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-60988439124311959582014-02-03T20:39:23.877-06:002014-02-03T20:39:23.877-06:00this lit me, Lindsay. I let it smolder too long, a...this lit me, Lindsay. I let it smolder too long, and the flames burst out today in power. <br /><br />as I always say, I LOVE the way you see me. Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-563117813106625462014-02-03T20:38:47.379-06:002014-02-03T20:38:47.379-06:00girl, you're the one I gotta thank. you and yo...girl, you're the one I gotta thank. you and your sexy sex stuff, you and your brave to speak about the taboo that shouldn't be so taboo. <br /><br />Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927558035256871985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-53025205793514182342014-02-03T19:02:50.024-06:002014-02-03T19:02:50.024-06:00There you go again..rocking my world with your wor...There you go again..rocking my world with your words!! Aint no shame here, sister, so preach on!! xoxoxoMelindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06575102922894249814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-8777978587979650472014-02-03T18:16:33.929-06:002014-02-03T18:16:33.929-06:00Rachel, I think this is fabulous. I love the boldn...Rachel, I think this is fabulous. I love the boldness (& of course I love Beyonce). I didn't read many of the responses to their performance (I am sure you read Laura Turners?). The question I'm wondering is, do people just feel shame about sex (and thus project it on others) when they see something they think they "shouldn't" see or do they think there is something really wrong with how Beyonce and JayZ were 'dancing.'? In other words, do they think it is inherently bad or just bad because they happened to see it? Any thoughts?Jane Haltonhttp://www.janehalton.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-66843951787995205312014-02-03T13:22:49.565-06:002014-02-03T13:22:49.565-06:00Girl, you have been ON FIRE lately. YES! Girl, you have been ON FIRE lately. YES! Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14081602024218560357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8842811545737336269.post-32351878418587573322014-02-03T13:16:44.170-06:002014-02-03T13:16:44.170-06:00Rachel, this is epic. AMEN. Amen. Rachel, this is epic. AMEN. Amen. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04049061309234538241noreply@blogger.com